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I checked a source I just found with pretty much every obscure, prototype firearm conceivable, ranging from pre-WWII to bleeding edge. Neither SMG, rifle, nor machine pistol had any of this mysterious H&K. Strange.
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Gunhead wrote:
I checked a source I just found with pretty much every obscure, prototype firearm conceivable, ranging from pre-WWII to bleeding edge. Neither SMG, rifle, nor machine pistol had any of this mysterious H&K. Strange.


Like I said, it was an X-model. I may try digging some more when I get some more free time.
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Heavily modified 1911's. Mostly just eye candy seeing as they're all airsoft guns. Besides even if they where real, I don't think they would perform very well with all the bs aesthetic modifications.






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Oh wow, that 2nd one looks exactly like what I imagined the Ares Predator from Shadowrun would look like!


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Not sure if anyone mentioned this yet, but for those considering the FN Herstal FNP, please handle it before you buy one.....
I was about to pick one of those up, until I went in and checked it out. the magazine release is in such an awkward position you have to completely release your grip and reach for it. So impractical......the FNX, (FNP's replacement) handles much better.

Sigs are wonderful, of course but expensive.....I like the Bersa Thunder Pro too.

Please don't get a 22 of any sort. You want at least 9mm, they are best for concealed carry. And as for the 'cp' theme of guns....I think the most cp thing would be functionality? For any gun purchase really though, it's a combination of function and form. It has to do what you want, feel right in your hand, perform correctly, be durable and look cool. But don't get something that just 'looks cool' and won't hold up. That's useless. And debating about the accuracy of handguns is useless too. They're as accurate as you make them, generally.

Don't want to start an entire thread for it, but any preferences on SAO, DA/SA, or DAO?
I've shot DAOs and it feels horrible to me. the pull is too heavy. Perhaps one could get used to it over time but I really don't care for it. DA/SA for me.....crisp, clean.
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While I'm a fan of larger calibres for their having a wider range of use, I do think the 22 can be just as effective for self defence. a 22 wont go through armour of any kind but it can kill an unarmoured target very effectivly.

If you were legitmatly keeping the side arm for defence against any normal force they arn't likely to be armored and thus your light weight, high capacity, cheap to own and fire 22 will put what you are shooting at down a 22 to the brain pan will kill most things that arn't a bear.

I use to know a guy that hunted deer with a 22 so it is more than possible and not to be underestimated for home defence.
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the .22 has an interesting quality about it: It can enter the skull, and ricochet around, scrambling cerebral tissue like an egg beater, and not exit the skull. It's effective for such uses, but if you just want a single shot termination from a further distance than point-blank, I'd recommend a .45 cal hollow point in the chest.

This is, of course, granted that no kevlar vest is being worn by assailant, which most won't bother investing in such unless they're professional, and you'll likely be snuffed by the time you reach for something to protect yourself with. From what I know, shotgun flechette rounds do a fair job of penetrating those classes of vests, even with armour plates.
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tonehog wrote:

This is, of course, granted that no kevlar vest is being worn by assailant, which most won't bother investing in such unless they're professional, and you'll likely be snuffed by the time you reach for something to protect yourself with. From what I know, shotgun flechette rounds do a fair job of penetrating those classes of vests, even with armour plates.

Actually plates are the one thing that can stop flechettes, but if they're just wearing soft armor like kevlar and ballistic nylon, they're screwed. Also: http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/product_info.php/cPath/324/products_id/2498

Armor piercing ammo is perfectly legal and available in the US for rifles- AP pistol ammo on the other hand, is another matter as it's seen as a "cop-killer". If you want an AP pistol, you're going to have to do some handloading, and it will definitely be used against you if not actually made a charge.
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Funny enough, i think .22 was accepted as personal defense until after ww1. Where the upturn in crime during the depression and availability of cheap surplus guns showed it as ineffective in comparison.


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Funny enough, i think .22 was accepted as personal defense until after ww1. Where the upturn in crime during the depression and availability of cheap surplus guns showed it as ineffective in comparison.

the Prohibition era also led the development in Magnum cartridges, with the .357 Magnum still reigning supreme in terms of popularity.
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Gunhead wrote:
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Funny enough, i think .22 was accepted as personal defense until after ww1. Where the upturn in crime during the depression and availability of cheap surplus guns showed it as ineffective in comparison.

the Prohibition era also led the development in Magnum cartridges, with the .357 Magnum still reigning supreme in terms of popularity.


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OG_brundle wrote:
Heavily modified 1911's. Mostly just eye candy seeing as they're all airsoft guns. Besides even if they where real, I don't think they would perform very well with all the bs aesthetic modifications.

Like the Centimeter Masters I keep using in my films, most of the modified Colt 1911’s are based around range target shooter models. So, hypothetically great accuracy but not as tactically practical with all the junk on it compared to a clean 1911.


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Remember the PS01, the one that looked like Robocop's Auto 9? Well I emailed the guy who runs the Firearm Blog about it, and he did an entry on it: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/07/01/pindad-ps-01-assault-pistol-5-56x21mm/
They should have just copied the Russian 9mm AP hot loads instead of going for a weird-ass cartridge like that.
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I don't think anyone has mentioned the PLR-16 yet. Kinda looks like a Han's blaster from Star Wars. I do want to pick one up someday.



Also, there is a polymer version of Taurus' the Judge that has a futuristic look to it.



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Heh, Ford handled the best movie guns. That second one looks like Blade Runner to me.


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