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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:11 am |
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hehe thought you posted that in the wrong thread 
in regards to the first link, I think something needs to be done with social media sites. liek some kind of quality control system, cause honestly all it has done is spread misinformation and caused anarchy. I mean it's not all bad, there is benefit to it, but the people just aren't educated enough to understand fact from falsity. And as I feel ever so clever for coining, "Social media is great for giving people a voice, but people don't know how to talk or listen."
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:11 am |
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Well its official after an inquery. There is no evidence that the boy fired the gun found at the scene or shot at the police and the bullet lodged in the police radio is consistant with being fired from a police weapon.
One theory not endorced by the inquiry is that it might be from a ricochet of a round the police fired at the man. (which is definatly a posibility balistically speaking as the bullet lodged in the radio opposed to going right through which would be unlikely with a direct hit.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:13 am |
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If it's official then you can provide a link saves us having to google it!
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:19 am |
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| Wiggett wrote: | hehe thought you posted that in the wrong thread
in regards to the first link, I think something needs to be done with social media sites. liek some kind of quality control system, cause honestly all it has done is spread misinformation and caused anarchy. I mean it's not all bad, there is benefit to it, but the people just aren't educated enough to understand fact from falsity. And as I feel ever so clever for coining, "Social media is great for giving people a voice, but people don't know how to talk or listen." |
you want a quality control system for what people say........seriously?
Who cares HOW the misinformation happens, if you don't trust the source or can't get the source to back up the information then you shouldn't trust it
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:43 am |
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| Wiggett wrote: | | is wikipedia being updated as live as the other news site claims to be? Granted I'm not getting my information on it first hand, I still have enough trust in the news site to report that in fact yes, several people have died during the riots. But i like how you try and ignore my actual statement which was about the hurting of people, which has happened, by injecting your own opinion as fact. |
I actually did ignore the rest of your statement because TLDR. And when did I claim my opinion was fact?
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:44 am |
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| PointZeroOne wrote: |
you want a quality control system for what people say........seriously?
Who cares HOW the misinformation happens, if you don't trust the source or can't get the source to back up the information then you shouldn't trust it |
yes i do, information is traditionally passed to journalists, who validate it and translate it to the public. Now, social media allows information to get to people faster, it skips the validation and often the translation and it goes to the people straight off. To compete with this, journalists now cannot waste the time validating or translating and often just go off information they find on social media sites.
Yes, i think there should be some sort of quality control, be that via a 3rd party surveilance team, or just by educating the masses so they don't get easily swayed by facebook posts. You see you and I may be able to think critically about a source of information, but not everyone does. This isn't the thread to go into examples of where misinformation has caused political movements, but there are several that I know of.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:47 am |
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I think Wiggett is just a little too used to everything being banned in Australia.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:51 am |
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[quote="Wiggett"] | PointZeroOne wrote: | | Yes, i think there should be some sort of quality control, be that via a 3rd party surveilance team |
I think you should quit whilst you still have a few CP points left  In just a couple of posts you have declared that freedom of speech be curtailed, and surveilance increased 
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:00 am |
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Yeah man.. you think what the media tells you is the truth?
They tell you what you don't want to hear... they sell ratings.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:19 am |
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http://cyberpunkreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=59688#59688
there, there is the place to speak it. As for losing cp cred, I work for a security team, it's already been announced that I am cy-corporate. But if you'd prefer to shit in the woods and wipe with a thistley leaf be my guest, I'm happy with my sterile environment and comfortable toilet paper brought to me by being obedient.
also note: There are already third party programs that determine what content is allowed on traditonal media such as newspapers and television. Mostly run by the government. But I am more for educating the public so we don't have whiney 13 year old kids startign political trends based on the latest my little pony episodes.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:38 am |
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the news is so blatently inaccurate sometimes. I always say never watch a news artical on something you know anything about because you'll then realise that they're talking out their collective asses a lot of the time. Those goverment run media watchdogs are more for censoring the truth than sifting out bullshit.
That whole islamic spin after oslo was a prime example. Sure life might be uncomfotable out of that glass cage but it's more free than inside. So many people are happy to sit on their pearch in self-imprisonment over exploring the wonders of life that you only find in the mud of the earth.
To Quote a scanner darkly:
the pain, so unexpected and undeserved had for some reason cleared away the cobwebs. I realized I didn't hate the cabinet door, I hated my life... My house, my family, my backyard, my power mower. Nothing would ever change; nothing new could ever be expected. It had to end, and it did. now in the dark world where I dwell, ugly things, and surprising things, and sometimes little wondrous things, spill out in me constantly, and I can count on nothing.
Or to quote Suckerpunch:
For those that fight, life has a flavour the placid will never know.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:05 am |
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Ealing Broadway Riots, London 8/8/11 (HD quality video) 4:06
from the poster kristhompsonfilm on youtube:
"the disgraceful scenes from Ealing on Monday 8th August 2011, as the London Riots spread. I managed to collect the following footage from behind the police and the rioters. It should be noted that some of the scenes in this video may be shocking to some people."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fJkAo5f8mo4
some reactions on this youtube link are like :
if this happens in Iran, BBC would report this was as an case of government brutality against peaceful protesters and or minorities.
daffordile - 4 hours ago
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Lol, this shit is hardcore. I wish America was more interesting when it comes to riots. Rather, we all fight against each other and not the real enemy, the government.
sorealphear95 7 hours ago
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Don't trash the streets ! Go after the Royal Palace & the big Mega Banks !
wingnut4427 8 hours ago
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So much hate and its completely wasted. We will achieve nothing from this riot. It's not going to be a better life for Great Britain. This is like playing your ask the audience card first in who wants to be a millionaire. We won't riot again when we find out politicians have been scamming us once again or when we decide to support a war we all feel against. Somebody died and nobody really gives a damn they just want to gain from it. I wish we had more punishments in England
Innukii 9 hours ago
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Humans are the worst animal on the planet. We love to infringe on other people whether it is a sexual assault, a robbery or a murder, humans in general love to create pain for one another no matter which side they are on. Always have and always will. At least some people got free booze and clothes I guess.
rody1069 10 hours ago
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"Is rioting the correct way to express your discontent?" --TV reporter
Rioter:"Yes. You wouldn't be talking to me now if we didn't riot Two months ago we marched and it was peaceful. Not a word in the press. Last night a bit of rioting and looting and look around you. Press everywhere"
imgordonfreeman 11 hours ago
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@imgordonfreeman "Rioter:"Yes. You wouldn't be talking to me now if we didn't riot Two months ago we marched and it was peaceful. Not a word in the press"
Well that sentiment MIGHT be worth while if the rioters had a cogent political objective. They have now got their opportunity to send a message. So far they seem to be telling the world that they really like getting free trainers and laptops.
It’s hardly the Communist Manifesto.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:05 am |
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| Wiggett wrote: | | edit: That is to say I understand robbing clothing stores etc, it's the underclass and poor hitting back at all the fucking marketing that tells them this is what they need to reach that ideal life we see on the tele. I mean you can't go anywhere without being told what the latest fashion item you're meant to wear is, even on facebook they want to sell you shit, that's capitalism for you. But the destroying of property and the hurting of people, that shit is just unfounded. |
Quite likely different groups and individuals taking advantage of the chaos for their own benefit, either getting back at someone with a long standing grudge or just venting some hormones.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:01 pm |
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| G4sM4sk wrote: | | the news is so blatently inaccurate sometimes. |
People are inaccurate on the whole. This whole notions of bloggers becoming editorial journalists just proves the point that media is just… people talking. Sometimes it’s verified intelligence, sometimes its gossip, sometimes it’s pure fiction and you have to take it all with a grain of salt. Anything you’re passionate about or concerned about you need to get off your ass and do the research yourself.
Now, how to deal with the wave of ignorant masses coming towards you… that’s a whole other problem.
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